Thursday, May 11, 2017

Guido Pozzo: "Lefebvrians" Have to Sign Doctrinal Declaration

(Rome) In an interview with Rome Reports, Archbishop Guido Pozzo, the Secretary of the Pontifical Commission, Ecclesia Dei, spoke of the canonical recognition of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X. There is "no date for reconciliation with the Lefebvrians", but the spirit is "constructive," according to Rome reports, referring to the Archbishop.

Monsignor Pozzo said:

"The reconciliation will occur when Monsignor Fellay formally adheres to the doctrinal declaration that the Holy See presented to him. This is also the necessary condition to then proceed to the institutional regularization with the creation of a personal prelature. I have noticed that there is not a controversial spirit but constructive. The different points of view or opinions we have on some issues do not necessarily need to lead to division, but to a mutual enrichment. I have realized that it is a priority for them to overcome this fracture with the Holy See. For them, it's a priority over other concerns."

Prior to the establishment of the new Personal Prelature, the Vatican would consult the bishops' conferences of the countries in which the Society currently operates. Archbishop Pozzo stated that the "key to reconciliation" was a better understanding of the Second Vatican Council. The misinterpretations that some theologians, intellectuals, and media have promoted would have led to breaches like with the Lefebvrians.

The Archbishop also recalled the criticism of Pope Benedict XVI. at a "hermeneutics of rupture". It was a false interpretation to see the Council as symbolic of a break with the doctrine of the Church which preceded it. This misinterpretation produces a "climate of conflict, confusion and uncertainty" about the interpretation of the Council, which is also the "root of the criticism and difficulties raised by the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X," said Pozzo.

AMDG

16 comments:

  1. It looks like it's going to be awhile if the bishops' conferences have to be consulted… So, probably no personal prelature by May 13.

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  2. Bishop Fellay can go ahead with his personal prelature but he will lose half his priests.

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    1. Already the French sspx are speaking out about the bs marriages concession. Francis' satanic modus operandi is "divide and conquer", ipso facto, you can't do deals with the devil.

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    2. OPUS DEI WILL NOT GO ALONG WITH

      THANK THE HOLY TRINITY

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  3. Aha!! So at last we know!

    The "climate of conflict, confusion and uncertainty" is all down to a "misinterpretation" of Vatican II on the part of Traditionalists.

    Thank you Archbishop Pozzo! For a minute there, I thought those who had conjured up the Spirit of Vatican II and then led (and continue to lead) millions to follow their erroneous teaching might have been the tarantula on the ambrosia.

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  4. The Archbishop also recalled the criticism of Pope Benedict XVI. at a "hermeneutics of rupture". It was a false interpretation to see the Council as symbolic of a break with the doctrine of the Church which preceded it. This misinterpretation produces a "climate of conflict, confusion and uncertainty" about the interpretation of the Council, which is also the "root of the criticism and difficulties raised by the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X," said Pozzo.

    MAY 10, 2017

    This will be a theological earthquake for Pope Benedict and the present magisterium which is sustaining heresy in the Catholic Church
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/05/this-will-be-theological-earthquake-for.html

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  5. In the Doctrinal Preamble the SSPX should affirm Vatican Council II Feeneyite and ask the CDF to do the same.
    They should point out to the Vatican that the Council is no more an issue since they accept Vatican Council II.
    They should call for doctrinal unity with Ecclesia Dei on Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) which was indirectly affirmed in the SSPX General Chapter Statement 2012.
    The SSPX should refuse to interpret Vatican Council II with an irrational premise and should ask the Vatican to not use the irrational premise in the interpretation of the Council.

    JANUARY 15, 2017

    Media chooses Vatican Council II (Cushingite) instead of Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) : approved magisterial heresy
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/media-chooses-vatican-council-ii_15.html

    With Feeneyite Vatican Council II the Catholic Church affirms the Social Reign of Christ the King
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/media-chooses-vatican-council-ii_15.html


    Michael Voris could show how Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Cushingism or Feeneyism,with visible exceptions or without them, irrationally or rationally.
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/09/michael-voris-could-show-how-vatican.html

    Cardinal Muller for ideological reasons has changed doctrine with an irrational theology to create magisterial heresy
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/cardinal-muller-for-ideological-reasons.html

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  6. We need to entrust this reconciliation to the great mother of God.

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    1. However you interpret it, it's one big mess. Francis is lining up any opposition on the edge of a cliff. In regard to Pius X, it cannot be viewed as evil. You can change the Church but you can't label as evil a response to Christ which "carried the pail of water" for 1000 years. To label "good as evil" is a sign of the devil. To label nuns as sexually aberrant is beyond despicable. Sexual fulfillment whether it be hetero or homo is not a sign of Christ. That belief is at the very core of Church reform.

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    2. Ecclesia Dei ask the Bishops Conferences to affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite)

      Ecclesia Dei must ask the bishops conferences to affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) after clarifying that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Cushingism or Feeneyism.I refer to the interpretations as Feeneyism and Cushingism.The SSPX and Ecclesia Dei can use other names.Instead of Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) call it Vatican Council II (Pozzo) or Vatican Council II (Lefebvre).Call Vatican Council II ( Cushingite), Vatican Council II (Ratzinger), Vatican Council II (Marx) or Vatican Council II (Kasper).

      Choose what you want to call it once you understand the principles.I call it Vatican Council II(F) in honour of the sacrifice of Leonard Feeney of Boston, faced with the magisterial heresy of the Archbishop, Richard Cushing and the pope and cardinals in Rome, during the pontificate of Blessed Pius XII.

      The old theology of Feeneyism for me, is based on invisible people not being visible and known in the present times.

      The new theology of Cushingism is based on invisible people, people in Heaven, being visible and known in the present times e.g 2017.

      The theology depends upon the premise.

      Cushingism is a false theology since the premise is irrational.

      The premise of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr.Leonard Feeney, was that invisible cases of being saved in invincible ignorance excluded the baptism of water and were visible- on- earth exceptions, to the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation.

      It's premise was that hypothetical cases of an unknown catechumen, who dies before receiving the baptism of water which he desired, was an objectively known exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).

      So in March 2016 Pope Benedict XVI confirmed this objective heresy in the daily Avvenire.He said that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.There was a development of the dogma, he said, with Vatican Council II. He was heretically and irrationally referring to a Vatican Council II ( Cushingite).No one objected.No one said that a pope in manifest heresy could not be an emeritus pope.

      This is the issue that the pontifical Ecclesia Dei and the Bishops Conferences must clarify.Can Vatican Council II be interpreted with Feeneyism and Cushingism and can the Bishops Conference and Ecclesia Dei choose Feeneyism?

      The SSPX must also be clear in rejecting all this doctrinal ambiguity.They should sign a Doctrinal Preamble only affirming Vatican Council II(Pozzo/Lefebvre) and that too, only if the same is done first by Ecclesia Dei and the relevant Bishops Conference.-Lionel Andrades

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  7. Playing politics with the Mystici Corporis Christi is never a good thing!

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  8. Docrinal declaration, he shouldn't sigh, it won't be long until the street riots from the "migrants" begin across Europe. What's the rush? The Vatican II document are riddled with heresy and errors, if even one is bad the entire document must be thrown out into the trash. it will be for sure at the next (actual) council (not pastoral council). Not much longer to wait

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    1. Not much longer? Have you happened to look at makeup of the College of Cardinals? We'll be lucky if it happens in another 50 years.

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    2. have you happened to look at the makeup of the "huddled masses, yearning to breathe free"?

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  9. In the past 5 years,I've read so many SSPX headlines and stories promising something "big" is about to happen,I know hear "the Days of Our Lives" theme every time I read or hear the acronym "SSPX".

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  10. Again Opus Dei which i attended the height study center 69-72 Does not want any other personal prelatures and so called gobal diocese

    Plus what the Vatican Dopes are requiring is the same sh.. diferent day paul the 6 to Fances the Dumb have been trying to shovel for 50

    THE definition of Insatity


    Bye the way how can anyone be xcunicated when Lutherans AND BUDDHIST are OK

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